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Across the galaxy, a small band of Rebels have banded together in an effort to stand against what they perceive as a threat to the Star Wars continuity. As they see it, this threat, primarily in the form of The Clone Wars animated series, represents a “relaxed attitude” in the integrity of the franchise. You can read more about the Petition of the 2000 here. Special thanks to TheForce.net for letting the fans know.
To best explain the viewpoint of George Lucas, it’s best to look at this in his own words. As sited in a 2008 interview from Total Film magazine:
- TOTAL FILM: “The Star Wars universe has expanded far beyond the movies. How much leeway do the game makers and novel writers have?”
- LUCAS: “They have their own kind of world. There’s three pillars of Star Wars. I’ll probably get in trouble for this but it’s OK! There’s three pillars: the father, the son and the holy ghost. I’m the father, Howard Roffman [president of Lucas Licensing] is the son and the holy ghost is the fans, this kind of ethereal world of people coming up with all kinds of different ideas and histories. Now these three different pillars don’t always match, but the movies and TV shows are all under my control and they are consistent within themselves. Howard tries to be consistent but sometimes he goes off on tangents and it’s hard to hold him back. He once said to me that there are two Star Trek universes: there’s the TV show and then there’s all the spin-offs. He said that these were completely different and didn’t have anything to do with each other. So I said, “OK, go ahead.” In the early days I told them that they couldn’t do anything about how Darth Vader was born, for obvious reasons, but otherwise I pretty much let them do whatever they wanted. They created this whole amazing universe that goes on for millions of years!”
- TOTAL FILM: “Are you happy for new Star Wars tales to be told after you’re gone?”
- LUCAS: “I’ve left pretty explicit instructions for there not to be any more features. There will definitely be no Episodes VII-IX. That’s because there isn’t any story. I mean, I never thought of anything. And now there have been novels about the events after Episode VI, which isn’t at all what I would have done with it. The Star Wars story is really the tragedy of Darth Vader. That is the story. Once Vader dies, he doesn’t come back to life, the Emperor doesn’t get cloned and Luke doesn’t get married…”
In other words, as much as the petitioning fans don’t want to hear it, continuity is whatever George Lucas says it is. Now, as I’ve mentioned here on this site and in our podcast many times before, somewhere along the lines it became popular to make George the public punching bag. No matter what he says, he’s automatically wrong to a vocal portion of the population that seems to think they’re too cool for the room. It’s time to deflate this argument at its source.
The petition states:
Since much of the enjoyment of the Star Wars universe comes from the verisimilitude of the saga—that necessary aspect of congruous historicity—a loss of this, whether intentional or not, creates a domino effect of contradictions, and erodes the ability for newer and older fans to confidently move forward in their support of the saga. A fictional universe where different stories controvert one another is not one that can long survive, as has been demonstrated over the years by various franchises which—taking little measure to ensure congruity—plummeted.
In other words, the printed material can’t be contradicted by the visual material (or vice versa) if the saga is to survive more than the 35 years it’s approaching. Is it safe to say that this is an agreed upon translation of this? If that’s the case, then one needs to look no farther than to existing franchises who have survived and thrived to this day across multimedia since before 1977.
1. Star Trek – Does anyone remember right after Star Trek III when the former crew of the Enterprise took control of the Excelsior and continued their mission, only to face down their counterparts from the Mirror Universe yet again? It seems Spock never overthrew his captain in that version as told in the comics, and there was no Enterprise-A to be had. Yet in David Mack’s novel The Sorrows of Empire, Mirror Universe Spock assassinated his captain and proceeded to control the Empire up through the timeline of Star Trek VI with the hopes of helping the Empire to fall. Or perhaps no one remembers the old Gold Key comics where the Enterprise was rocket-propelled rather than warp-capable, and a number of other technological discrepancies are sited. It seems penny ante until you acknowledge the warp drive is the entire basis of Star Trek history itself. And don’t even get me started on the timeline. Different sources site the entirety of the 23rd century for the dates of the 5-year mission. Both Captain Christopher and Khan Singh are characters firmly placed in the 20th century, yet Kirk (in the 23rd century) tells them both he’s from 200 years in their future. And while we’re at it, were the Eugenics Wars and World War III the same war? Some episodes say yes (“Space Seed”), and some say no (“The Savage Curtain”). Star Trek: The Next Generation – a later incarnation of Trek - helped to establish the continuity that was not established by the original series or films, just as The Clone Wars is doing now with our unanswered questions. Both shows proceeded with no thought to the novels or comics that stacked up in those eras.
2. DC Comics – You know the names. Superman. Batman. Wonder Woman. Green Lantern. The Flash. The list goes on and on, and all of these characters had been going for nearly 40 years when Star Wars took to screen. In this case, the printed versions come first, so it’s a reversal on the saga. Different eras see different takes on the characters. Powers are added, powers are subtracted, identities are changed, characters are changed, universes are changed or are outright destroyed. In the case of Superman specifically, most of what we know today is based on the radio program. The comics gave us Superman. The radio gave us the Daily Planet, Perry White, Lois Lane, Jimmy Olsen, and Kryptonite. Meanwhile the movies and TV series were anything but loyal to any version that came before. Take a look at the weaponry on Michael Keaton’s Batmobile or Batwing, or his willingness to drop opponents off of bell towers or to ignite them with the Batmobile’s flamethrower. Look at the new Wonder Woman’s triple identity. And who can forget Christopher Reeve’s giant cellophane S-shield or memory-stealing super kiss? Or perhaps did anyone else notice Tom Welling’s Clark Kent blasting away at twin towers with his heat vision in the heart of Metropolis? Pop quiz: can Wonder Woman fly? 1942 says no. 1987 says yes. And today she can astrally project herself, thus rendering the point almost moot. If anything, these characters have thrived in spite of their horribly scrambled continuity problems.
3. Doctor Who – the longest-running science fiction series in history. I saved the best for last because, let’s face it, if ever a show can contradict itself, it’s Doctor Who. Such is the nature of time traveling. Consider the case of the 6th and 7th Doctor crossover companion, Melanie Bush. Go ahead, figure that out if you can. Look her up, I’ll wait. Or perhaps you’d like to explain the Weeping Angels and the complete change of rules in only their second appearance? Or how The Master got Iron Man-like superpowers and a completely new origin story – which, by the way, completely stomps all over the Big Finish Productions audio origin story for the character, to say nothing of his previous appearances. Let’s look at an early appearance, specifically the 8th Doctor’s TV movie. Did you know they hold trials on Skaro? That’s where the Daleks tried and executed the Master, then apparently allowed the Doctor to claim what was left of the body. The truth is, there are whole volumes available for purchase that discuss the discontinuity of Doctor Who. And such books don’t even take into account the novels, the comics, the audio plays, the stage productions, etc. that comprise that marketing empire. You can pretty much base a Ph.D. study on Time Lord Goofology. I’ve asked diehard fans of the Doctor to explain some of this to me. The most intelligent answer I ever got was a shrug.
So with just these handful of examples in mind, and rest assured there are others, we’re supposed to believe that The Clone Wars is undermining the integrity of Star Wars when the majority of the Expanded Universe never had consultations with George on the nature of the Force, the timelines, the history of the Jedi and Sith, etc.? No, I don’t buy it. Star Wars will be around for a long time to come because the George Lucas vision is a solid one. The EU books, comics, etc., are fun and invigorating, and they provide us with even more of what we fans want: more Star Wars. That we want more is a testament to George’s creative engine. This fan lived through the Dark Times, when there was no new material to absorb between the Ewok movies and the first appearances of the modern EU. Today we get new novels and comics every month, new Clone Wars every week during the televised season, and there are promises of new material in the immediate future. We’re lucky to have it at all. The very first Expanded Universe novel, Splinter of the Mind’s Eye, was contradicted by The Empire Strikes Back. I don’t see anyone wiping their tears over that. As near as I can tell, the straw that broke the tauntaun’s back is the death of Jedi Master Even Piell as the TV episode contradicts an EU novel that, to be honest, I can’t find anyone online that actually read it! Yet, nobody’s making waves over the first meeting of Anakin and Tarkin in these episodes, even though their first meeting is chronicled in Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader, a novel that virtually 85% or more of the Star Wars fan population read and enjoyed. What does this say? To me, it says the expectation of entitlement has reached an all-time high within the community of modern fandom. It’s time to stop. In the Star Wars Universe, George Lucas is the first and last word. If it doesn’t fit his story, so be it. It doesn’t change the fact that you enjoyed the novel or the comic, does it? No, it doesn’t. There’s another phrase I’m fond of saying: “vote with your dollar.” If you don’t like something, don’t buy it, don’t watch it. If you do enjoy it, buy it, watch it, share it with friends. Internet searches drive up interest, and that equates to money in this kind of machine. Money = “they’re doing something right, let’s make more of it.” As a highly opinionated and vocal fanboy with a podcast, I’m certainly as guilty as anyone of thumping the continuity bible of a given franchise. But in most cases, the creators are dead and were taken out of the loop long before it ever got truly crazy. George is still here, he’s still active, and he’s still telling the story he’s had in his head all those decades ago. For the love of the Force… enjoy the ride.
This months SciFIFX meetup podcast started by covering the Villain that you love to hate. We had some really good villains come up in this from Batmans Joker, Star Treks Q, Stargates Valla and who could forget Star Wars Darth Vader. This followed by a large quantity of geek-ness and some very interesting thoughts of your favorite shows and characters.
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After two years, Stargate Command has apparently decided to let the Destiny drift. You can read all the details here.
I’ve made no secret of not liking the show, and I made no attempt to bash it. I gave it multiple chances, hoping beyond hope that the creative teams that had given us 15 seasons of quality Stargate entertainment would change my mind and my perspective. I’m of the opinion that any story in any universe, using any characters, can be salvaged. If Star Trek could pull it off with both Voyager and Enterprise, then anything could happen.
Apparently, not in the Stargate mythos. At the risk of sounding redundant, I’ll offer my two cents as to why: IDENTITY. It’s a trend that seems to be happening in nearly every property and franchise that touches the realm of science fiction and fantasy. Creative teams are called upon to “reinvigorate” and “redefine” a property with name recognition so that a new generation can latch on to it, and hopefully without alienating the audience that supported it the first time. Pick a topic, any topic. It starts out hotter than hot, then cools off quickly as people get bored with the “new, edgy” version. See if these names sound familiar. Star Trek. Battlestar Galactica. James Bond. Beginning with Deep Space Nine, Trek became Babylon 5, then Lost in Space, and finally Battlestar before finding Trek again in the final season of Enterprise. Battlestar became a self-righteous and preachy version of Terminator. James Bond became Jason Bourne. And Stargate, dissatisfied with 15 seasons of fun and hope opted to become the bastard child of Battlestar, Voyager, and Lost.
I submit this for consideration and debate: if a property must be rebooted to make it work with a current generation, it needs to keep the fundamental values that made it work the first time through. Yes, each generation is different and in search of its own identity, but in the end, each generation is still made of people, and people are fundamentally the same regardless of how much a younger audience wants to “keep it real.” It is possible to tell dark and edgy character-driven stories and still stay true to the roots of what made a story work before. Need proof positive of original stories that fumbled a bit in later versions then took it back to the roots and reclaimed their identities? Star Trek. Star Wars. Doctor Who. As you can see, it can be done.
And all I’m asking is that perhaps it’s time the people that run Stargate look at these examples. If you have a show that makes its mark by giving us the best and brightest our country has to offer, fighting for all mankind, and bringing a little hope and snarkiness to the galaxy, then there’s something fundamentally screwed up when the most common line in every single episode is “these are the wrong people for the wrong job.” That’s where SGU went wrong. I liked the characters, I liked the actors portraying them, but these characters were not Stargate characters. Fans of the show said “if you don’t like it, don’t watch.” And so I stopped, mostly because I got tired of being mad at something I loved. And no disrespect to the series creators, the cast and crew, or the fans, and it’s sad that it’s come to this, but… I told you so. I’m sorry, somebody has to say it, not to rub your noses in it, but to make the point of the much larger issue of identity. This is a common theme I have running in my world between classic sci-fi, superheroes, and every other genre I hold dear. The bottom line is that if you make quality, you keep fans. If you made fans the first time, chances are what drew them will draw the next generation of fans for the same reasons. If you’re in it for the money, you’ll have to keep reinventing the brand name until it just needs to be killed in some horrible and unspeakable way… like Star Trek or Doctor Who. Thankfully both did get obliterated, and both learned from past mistakes, coming back stronger than ever. This is a lesson every reboot can learn from.
Star Wars gave us the past. Star Trek gave us that bright and shiny future. Stargate‘s identity is about where we are right now. And maybe SGU‘s problem is it gave us exactly where we are now. Maybe nobody wants to be a hero anymore. Or maybe the big idea is that everyone’s just too cool to be a hero. Nobody’s happy unless nobody’s happy. Right?
Bull. 15 seasons and legions of adoring fans say otherwise. There’s an old saying: “if it’s not broke, don’t fix it.” But now that it is broken, we need some top surgeons to inspire a TV audience to loyalty. Give Jack O’Neill back his sense of humor. Show us the next generation of heroes inspired by the exploits of SG-1 and the Atlantis expedition. Give us characters we can stand behind rather than the ones that make us want to scream at the screen for all the wrong reasons. Show us that Stargate is proud of its history instead of making it want to become something it’s not. The world changes, but the adventure continues. Show us what happened to the Wraith. Give us the threat of the Pegasus Asgard. Or maybe…just maybe, show us what happens to the stalwart heroes of the SGC when the Stargate is made public! Whatever, just throw Rush out the airlock, and for heaven’s sake, get rid of the Lucian Alliance. Real heroes require real villains. Enough with the space corn!
Oh, and lest I forget, big congrats on the obviously classy operation that is the SyFy Channel. How bad does it have to be when you opt release the cancellation to the public before you tell the people that work for you? The cast and crew learned from their fans via Twitter! Really? It’s come to this?
Wow.
January 29-30, 2011 in Plano
Meet Battlestar Galactica’s Tricia Helfer, Star Trek’s Nichelle Nichols, and more actresses and artists to be announced in the weeks to come.
Exhibitor room with more than 150 tables loaded with collectibles, comics, cards, t-shirts, movies, toys and more!
Stay tuned for more details! http://www.scifiexpo.com/DCC/scifiexpo.html
In something that seems like gag from a Big Bang Theory spec script that never got made, it appears that the Texas Supreme Court has taken a page from the Vulcan Academy of Jurisprudence.
Techdirt and the Science Fiction & Fantasy Writers Association report that the Texas Supreme Court opinion Robinson v. Crown Cork and Seal refers to the dictum put forward by Mr. Spock in Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan that “the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.”
Appropriately weighty principles guide our course. First, we recognize that police power draws from the credo that “the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.” Second, while this maxim rings utilitarian and Dickensian (not to mention Vulcan 21), it is cabined by something contrarian and Texan: distrust of intrusive government and a belief that police power is justified only by urgency, not expediency.
Not content to contextualize Vulcan wisdom through Dickens and “contrarian” Texan identity, the opinion goes on to quote in footnote number 21:
See STAR TREK II: THE WRATH OF KHAN (Paramount Pictures 1982). The film references several works of classic literature, none more prominently than A Tale of Two Cities. Spock gives Admiral Kirk an antique copy as a birthday present, and the film itself is bookended with the book’s opening and closing passages. Most memorable, of course, is Spock’s famous line from his moment of sacrifice: “Don’t grieve, Admiral. It is logical. The needs of the many outweigh…” to which Kirk replies, “the needs of the few.”
 It’s hard to imagine what urgency could be brought up through a case involving cork and sealants, as opposed to dilithium crystals and the Genesis Device … but it’s nice to know that Vulcan logic can have some influence here on Earth.


























